Comments on: Literary Novels and Fan Culture: Some Thoughts Following The Future of Entertainment 3 http://tomorrowmuseum.com/2008/11/25/literary-novels-and-fan-culture-some-thoughts-following-the-future-of-entertainment-3/ What's New in Art, Technology, and Media Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:33:50 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: doseedoe http://tomorrowmuseum.com/2008/11/25/literary-novels-and-fan-culture-some-thoughts-following-the-future-of-entertainment-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1564 doseedoe Fri, 02 Jan 2009 23:04:32 +0000 http://www.tomorrowmuseum.com/?p=893#comment-1564 The novel IS dead. Scrappy aphanumerica no match for pure neural shaping. Give it up, the novel is not digestable non linearly. It is the dodo, kill it before you enslave more generations of children to the adult liars: to the prison rule of ruled paper systems. Free your eyes your mind will follow. Understand you were not given a choice, you HAD to use an alphabet and it was beyond your control. The novel IS dead. Scrappy aphanumerica no match for pure neural shaping. Give it up, the novel is not digestable non linearly. It is the dodo, kill it before you enslave more generations of children to the adult liars: to the prison rule of ruled paper systems. Free your eyes your mind will follow. Understand you were not given a choice, you HAD to use an alphabet and it was beyond your control.

]]> By: trav http://tomorrowmuseum.com/2008/11/25/literary-novels-and-fan-culture-some-thoughts-following-the-future-of-entertainment-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1514 trav Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:25:07 +0000 http://www.tomorrowmuseum.com/?p=893#comment-1514 It all starts to make sense and usable once you begin looking at a book and its surrounding online collateral as a "loop". That's great! As is this whole post. Thank you for the recap of the panel discussions. Though you do end on the great note of "The first step is a great book." there are a few thought provoking examples of some real innovation and new products that could be worked into the publishing industry as it evolves.<br><br>And I cannot wait for the day that "mainstream readers thinking about publishing houses as they do record labels. That the catalog was curated."<br><br>That will be a great day indeed. It all starts to make sense and usable once you begin looking at a book and its surrounding online collateral as a “loop”. That's great! As is this whole post. Thank you for the recap of the panel discussions. Though you do end on the great note of “The first step is a great book.” there are a few thought provoking examples of some real innovation and new products that could be worked into the publishing industry as it evolves.

And I cannot wait for the day that “mainstream readers thinking about publishing houses as they do record labels. That the catalog was curated.”

That will be a great day indeed.

]]> By: joanne mcneil http://tomorrowmuseum.com/2008/11/25/literary-novels-and-fan-culture-some-thoughts-following-the-future-of-entertainment-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1510 joanne mcneil Mon, 01 Dec 2008 15:02:37 +0000 http://www.tomorrowmuseum.com/?p=893#comment-1510 Hi William, <br>Thank you for commenting! I've enjoyed the RSA Arts & Ecology blog quite a lot. Not to be taken the wrong way, but while collaborating on this project do you feel you are contributing the best writing to your ability? Or is the project taken slightly less seriously than if it were your own personal writing project? I am curious about incentives in collaborative creative work. It isn't really comparable to decentralization Wikipedia-style --and, admittedly, I am a little skeptical. But I'll definitely follow 217babel now. I'm a big fan of Noon's. Hi William,
Thank you for commenting! I've enjoyed the RSA Arts & Ecology blog quite a lot. Not to be taken the wrong way, but while collaborating on this project do you feel you are contributing the best writing to your ability? Or is the project taken slightly less seriously than if it were your own personal writing project? I am curious about incentives in collaborative creative work. It isn't really comparable to decentralization Wikipedia-style –and, admittedly, I am a little skeptical. But I'll definitely follow 217babel now. I'm a big fan of Noon's.

]]> By: joanne mcneil http://tomorrowmuseum.com/2008/11/25/literary-novels-and-fan-culture-some-thoughts-following-the-future-of-entertainment-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1509 joanne mcneil Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:53:59 +0000 http://www.tomorrowmuseum.com/?p=893#comment-1509 Hi Kathleen, I am a huge fan of if:book and I'm embarrassed now I forgot to mention The Golden Notebook Project! It's commendable first for picking such a thoughtful book -- the kind most people think about and appreciate in a private way. It absolutely makes the reading experience less lonely. You can ignore the margins if you want, read them only while rereading a passage, or follow along depending on interest. I love that the reading reflects this moment in time -- considering it as a book that Barack Obama names as a favorite. And I wonder what would happen were a second project staged several years in the future -- what kind of things might people take away from the narrative? What The Golden Notebook provides is an incentive to dig deeper in the text and read to the end within a time frame. Thank you for commenting Hi Kathleen, I am a huge fan of if:book and I'm embarrassed now I forgot to mention The Golden Notebook Project! It's commendable first for picking such a thoughtful book — the kind most people think about and appreciate in a private way. It absolutely makes the reading experience less lonely. You can ignore the margins if you want, read them only while rereading a passage, or follow along depending on interest. I love that the reading reflects this moment in time — considering it as a book that Barack Obama names as a favorite. And I wonder what would happen were a second project staged several years in the future — what kind of things might people take away from the narrative? What The Golden Notebook provides is an incentive to dig deeper in the text and read to the end within a time frame. Thank you for commenting

]]> By: Kathleen http://tomorrowmuseum.com/2008/11/25/literary-novels-and-fan-culture-some-thoughts-following-the-future-of-entertainment-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1508 Kathleen Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:58:34 +0000 http://www.tomorrowmuseum.com/?p=893#comment-1508 Joanne, I've been reading Tomorrow Museum for a while now and always really enjoy your posts. You talked about collaboration in creation, but I was wondering what you thought about collaboration in reading. I've been working on The Golden Notebook Project (<a href="http://thegoldennotebook.org/" rel="nofollow">http://thegoldennotebook.org/</a>) over here at the Institute for the Future of the Book, and it's been exciting to see a community form around the project that past few weeks. Reading your post makes me think a lot about the role of the publisher in establishing a community around the book...what do you think? Joanne, I've been reading Tomorrow Museum for a while now and always really enjoy your posts. You talked about collaboration in creation, but I was wondering what you thought about collaboration in reading. I've been working on The Golden Notebook Project (http://thegoldennotebook.org/) over here at the Institute for the Future of the Book, and it's been exciting to see a community form around the project that past few weeks. Reading your post makes me think a lot about the role of the publisher in establishing a community around the book…what do you think?

]]> By: william http://tomorrowmuseum.com/2008/11/25/literary-novels-and-fan-culture-some-thoughts-following-the-future-of-entertainment-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1506 william Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:20:33 +0000 http://www.tomorrowmuseum.com/?p=893#comment-1506 "Collaboration in creating an actual work of literary fiction is tricker to discuss"... I'm not sure this counts as an example of success in it, and it's stalled right now until I pull my finger out, but here's one attempt by Jeff Noon and others<br><br><a href="http://217babel.com" rel="nofollow">http://217babel.com</a> “Collaboration in creating an actual work of literary fiction is tricker to discuss”… I'm not sure this counts as an example of success in it, and it's stalled right now until I pull my finger out, but here's one attempt by Jeff Noon and others

http://217babel.com

]]> By: Chris http://tomorrowmuseum.com/2008/11/25/literary-novels-and-fan-culture-some-thoughts-following-the-future-of-entertainment-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1503 Chris Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:47:53 +0000 http://www.tomorrowmuseum.com/?p=893#comment-1503 Scott Heim has written three of the most widely-acclamied novels of the last 20 years? No he hasn't, and that's a ridiculous claim to make. Nice try, though. Scott Heim has written three of the most widely-acclamied novels of the last 20 years? No he hasn't, and that's a ridiculous claim to make. Nice try, though.

]]> By: Amber Case http://tomorrowmuseum.com/2008/11/25/literary-novels-and-fan-culture-some-thoughts-following-the-future-of-entertainment-3/comment-page-1/#comment-1502 Amber Case Wed, 26 Nov 2008 13:55:54 +0000 http://www.tomorrowmuseum.com/?p=893#comment-1502 Great post. Excellent round-up! Great post. Excellent round-up!

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